Wednesday, March 13, 2013

10 days, 1800 visits
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Tuesday, March 12, 2013

Why is fisting pleasurable?

Question asked by Mike H. from the UK,

Where do I start? I can begin to describe the ecstasy of what it feels like the first time a real man’s fist invades your ass or the first time you put your fist in someone’s nice cute ass. But aside from the obvious feelings of being ultimately fucked and filled, it’s also a sense that — without question — you’re out of control or in control. The guy has a power over your body and is driving and steering it in whatever direction and speed he chooses. It’s also a feeling of connection — the ultimate intimacy — of which I’d never felt before.




But a real evaluation of the practice of fisting should be based on information and not fear. "The ultimate intimacy", it was that surging through my blood, my brain and my being — all at the speed of light. But as a person, I have a great need to analyze and understand myself and the world around me. It is not enough for me to just 'feel'. I do not see myself as a pervert or Sado-Masochist. I am a sane, intelligent, educated and rational man with the desire to explore anal pleasure to its limits. I have a deep respect for my health, my body and my mind. I would never participate in any activity that would purposely hurt me or others. Sex for me has always been a positive and pleasant act to be carried out without shame.

Getting involved in fisting did, however, force me to re- evaluate myself and my desires. The insertion of a fist into an ass carries with it powerful overtones of dominance and submission and shades of S&M. In addition, the potential physical dangers involved are very real. Before I could accepted fisting as a legitimate sexual act I had to know everything about it. I was lucky that I was introduced into this fetish pleasure by some guys who practiced it for quite a long time and took the time to learn and tell me about it. Unfortunately information on this subject is difficult to come by, in my time (the early 80´s) and even now with the help of the web.

Fisting arouses a great deal of emotion. Although it seems that every homosexual is curious about the practice, the feelings it arouses are mixed: men are either all for it or totally repelled by it. This situation is a result of the great amount of ignorance that exists about the subject. Though the practice of handball is continually gaining in popularity even more the last 10 years, there is a general avoidance of the topic - both in the media and in conversation. When, it is discussed. It´s usually as some sort of bizarre perversion! The gay media has particularly avoided the issue.

Sex is essentially an activity of the mind for which the body is only the agent. There are multitude of sexual variations many of which are potentially more dangerous than fisting - bondage, whipping, suffocation, piercing, scarification, etc. Fisting however appears to arouse the greatest amount of fear! A real evaluation of the practice of fisting should be based on information and not fear.

The folds of anal tissue give the anal canal a striking capacity for expansion, depending on the level of muscular tension. For example, during rectal surgery, under anesthesia, a person's anal muscles can be easily dilated so the surgeon's entire hand can pass through the anal canal. So also in a private session it will, only with a lot of patience and care we can arrive to a curtain climax. With- or without drugs.

Monday, March 11, 2013

Just a little story...

So like every monday all my friends are asking how was the weekend? So for ones I will write it down. Okay I'm not a good writer and I do not want to get to juicy, but just for  the fun I want to share it...

A normal weekend at our house…

Even we played already last night; we have to get ready for the weekend.
It is Thursday and we are waiting for a guy to come around 14h, he rented the room in our place. We decided to rent out one of our rooms when we moved back to the city, through my past I know a lot of guys out of the scene leather / bears or fist scene. Being the owner of one of Antwerp’s Leather Bar/Hotel in the 90’s did a lot. Like I always say they all know me but do I know them! Anyhow if we want the house is full 7 on 7, 365 days a year. That is when you live in one of Europa’s hottest gay capitals. We only rent the room to guys out of the Fist scene, we still want them to be comfortable in our own house, and for them it is the same, being comfortable, relaxed and they can do what they want. At 13h he is there, nice and charming in his late 50’s, totally happy that the room has his own sling. Makes a photo and send it right back home. Viva Internet. He is getting settled and 30 min. later al running naked around the house. Asks if we know the guys he meet through internet and what we think about them. Dangerous, all tastes are different. So like always we give a diplomatic answer, lol.  Listen the room is yours, you do what you want to do. He invites one of the guys.
After he had washed his ass he comes in to the living room and says if we want to join the party. - Now sometimes we will say yes but not this time, the guy who comes over we like a lot to play with, but you invited him and you your nice but totally not our type, we do not want to have problems. - Answer read the house rules; Sex can happen but is not an obligation not from us neither from you (If there is feeling or physical attraction things can happen).

At 18h the guy rings the door and joined our guest, “yeap!” it is hard sometimes to see naked men walking around in your house with good fist asses and you cannot touch them. But it brings a good atmosphere in the house. Around 2 hours later, horny and getting more horning hearing them playing in the other room, okay I can´t handle it anymore. So my Cub (BF) is gone get it, I put his pants down and start rimming his ass, 30 sec. and his dick is hard as stone, put him down on the floor and start working his ass. He takes my hand, little greedy bastard, so we play for hours too.

Friday night again on other man is coming over for our guest; he is really enjoying his stay here. In a hot town like this it is always easy to find guys to play with! So we organize our own party. In about 1 hour we contacted some guys and they are coming over. Hummm 2 parties in the same house. We ended up with 6 guys all a different style leather guys and sneaker guys, hairy or shaved, but one thing in common, there is fisting everywhere. One is greedier than the other one, it can´t go wrong anymore. For me it is not always easy, my big hands are in general a big fear for guys, but on the moment you got that contact it will work out, so it did that evening…. we played until early morning.

Saturday noon waking up, after a whole night playing it is time to have a little lunch, the top guy can eat whatever he want but for the bottom one this means or rice or pastas, I make some spaghetti bolognaise. At 15h the cleaning process starts. Our guest went away to another date in town, a friend of us invited him over, and he is gone have a great time. Even we could not understand he didn´t wanted to go to “the” party this evening. Fist Club BCN is having his 50th anniversary it is gone be a hell of a party… Coming to this town and NOT going to “the” party? LOL.

By now the cleaning is done, always to do it better in several times 2 or 3 times of 20 minutes and not in a hurry. Getting all our stuff together, Crisco, lubes, gloves, cleaning alcohol, etc. and dressed and time to go.  At 19h the doors go open. We arriving at 19h30 undress and join the party. There are already guys playing in some of the slings. The nice thing about the place where they hold the party that you have space even like it turned out later there were about a 100 guys, space enough. 5 slings, 6 banks, 1 gynecologic chair and some low open chairs, for every taste there is something. Like always we start to play together to get in the mood, immediately there are others standing around us. This can be nice and sometimes even horny, but there are also moments you hate it and men can get very annoying. – Guys out there please and I ask pleas have some respect, you can see on the eyes of the fistee (bottom) if he likes it or not. IF HE DOESN´T LIKE IT GO AWAY. Tops in general do not mind but we are there to give pleasure to the bottoms and they need to be comfortable. I myself do not like it either, when they do not respect those who are playing, I will ask you to join and if I don´t than get away, or stand on a distance. – We play for about a half hour and have great FFun & great hard fucking. Cleaning up the fistee is a golden rule you whip of his ass and then help him out of the sling. Turning around you see a lot of different reactions. Some like it that hot, some look scared and you have those who ask immediately can we play with you, both or separate? Of course, why the fuck you think we´re here!  In the scene we are called “The Couple” why? We didn´t know either, we are not they only couple, LOL. (But in time we learned why, we are one of those couples who love to play together and together with others, even we play also alone each on his side, but in general the preference is to play the two of us with… 3, 4 , 5 more… If not it will be 1 on 1. The say they do not see that often.) But now, first a drink!

My Cub is off with a black guy he adores it, while I get sucked by another guy drinking my GT. In front of me are 2 horny guys looking at me, fuck I want to get my hand in their asses. But I´m one of those old fashion types of guys, the fistee/bottom has to ask the top! Stupid I know but it turns me even on more. Suddenly a guy walks up to me and says remember me from the last party? I send you a message that I would love to learn to handle you like your boyfriend those. Would you fist me? And I would say no? He is in his 50´s and looks good and sporty, has a cute ass, so why not. He tries to find if there is a sling free. In the back there is one free and he lays down in it. I start with eating & rimming his ass, fuck the shit out of him and try to get on the same time some fingers in there to, to see how open he is. Slowly I enter my hand, he says: I want you to go rough. You´re sure? I just started, look; I got big hands. I know I have been practicing. Okay! Don´t say that twice to me that´s the way I like it… and he takes it the way I want, greedy like hell, woof! Knowing when they want it this way it is not gone take for long, specially not the first time. Still he could handle it for 20 minutes, wow! Walking around a little later and seeing my Cub lying in the sling having fun, turns me on. Looking at them and the give me both a sign to join. (Smile) So I do, not for long I want him to have fun. But the fister turns me on too. Another GT and I´m back with a guy at one of the sport benches. This time more relaxed fisting.

On the moment I want to fist the first guy again, my BF is running in my direction, please come with me he says. The guy who fisted me is waiting for you. Okay no problem I like him so where is he? At the same sling I was. Arriving upstairs at the sling the guy is waiting with a big smile standing next to the sling. You’re not in it? But before I was finished talking he climbed already on me. WOW! This is gone be hot. And believe me it was exactly the way I want a guy to be, like my own Cub. Even when you fist a lot out of the choses there are always better asses or guys, it all depends on the feeling. But this one topped the night. My BF says; see I told you. You would like it. Yes I did, for a long time I did not meet a guy this hot and greedy. I was sweating like hell, getting every minute more exiting. When we stopped he said: “Morbosso (Spanish for hell – deadly sexy), I don´t know if this was sex or rape, but you (fist) fucked the shit out of me, this is what I want. Can I get more?” Thanks, by the way my name is Henk and this is my BF, but you already meet him, no. You´re from Barcelona?  No, I live on an island, I´m here for the weekend. Cool so we can play more. “No problem, the pleasure is mine” he said.
So the evening went on. We fisted and fucked, one after the other passed. The both of us were playing, my BF had fun so did I and in between we had ffun together too. The island guy stayed with us and we played and played. Around 1 in the morning one of our friends, whispers in my ear while I’m fisting, we having an after party at hour house you guys are coming? Yes, no problem we will join later.

While at around 1 in the morning the door goes open for everyone the atmosphere change. Even you find guys on the party that sometimes you ask what they are doing there, after one ¾ of the crowd is not in to fisting. Sometimes it can be fun and a good mix but other nights it doesn´t work out, this was one of these nights. There are nights that we come out of the club at 8 o´clock in the morning but tonight we will leave early. Not to our house this time were we have normally our after parties but to our friends.
We arrive a little later at the apartment of them, good there are more guys we will have more ffun. 9 guys totally in to each other and we play and play until early morning. Arriving at home we have to prepare breakfast for or guest. Joining him at the table he tell us his adventure and we ours, While during telling the story we get horny again and went back to bed the 2 of us finishing the great night together, 2 hours later we fell asleep.

Waking up around noon there is only one thought in my mind, fucking. Turn around my man and give him what he wants..
At 2 we get up from our bed the sun is shining and the weather is great for an early march weekend, so I decide to go lay outside on the terrace naked. There we go again I love being naked but I got one problem. On the moment the sun is shining on me I´m getting a hard one again. (LOL at home this is no problem but sometimes on the naked beaches it is.) My man is answering all the mails and requests and he asks if I want to party today. Looking at my dick, Yes!

Around 5 o´clock my BF is in the shower to clean and at 6 o´clock the first guy comes around, he is new in the scene but wants to try… nervous, so I try to calm him down, so far so good. At 7h30 the second guy, he found us on scruff, a 28 year old Cub, I like hairy guys, woof and this one knows how to make sex, hop in the sling you. Around 9, 2 other guys came one from Switzerland and one out our neighborhood, the last one is not into fisting but want so much to join. After 20 min the Swiss guy leaves. WTF was this comes wants to play you fuck him than my BF asks do you want to fist me, they go to the sling and he is laying himself in the sling, Okay, he fucks him than he wants to fist him and with 2 fingers in screams the hell out and says stop do NOT move. Sit for 3 min like that and what now? They get out come back to join the rest and he says I’m leaving. Okay if you´re not into fisting but then don´t say or write on your profile you do. Okay there are always people they want to behave stupid, you see them coming to your house or to parties they are there but do not join or are scared to be toughed, but it is so cool to be on a fist (private) party and be fucked in a sling…. Okay the party goes further, for the newly it is getting to rough but he is still amused, the Cub on the other hand is getting wilder and wilder, fist deeper and heavier, fist and fucked on the same time, while one of us is deep throating him.. and we turn places he has the time of his live. Getting greedier and dirtier likes even watersport and how more he wants how more crazy we are getting… after 4 hours of playing and ending with my feet in his ass we all came, it was like showers opened at ones. WOW! This was great. Unexpected, but great! Coffee and a cigarette and everyone is dressing up.  20 minutes later our guest came home, earlier than we thought but too late to join, yes, because really during the weekend he became a great guy, LOL, this doesn´t mean he wasn´t but he was not our type, but if you hang around people you start to like them in another way and then in the end it really doesn´t matter so long everyone is cool and piggy. Oh well, maybe next time.

Now it is time to go to sleep our guest has to leave tomorrow morning his flight goes at 11 o´clock, my BF has to work, starting at nine. And me? I´m writing this story to all of you how want to read it… and have a rest because the life of a Top is rough… LOL.

Have a nice week you all, we are hoping next weekend will be like this one…. Xxx

FFTop66
Estoy trabajando en la actualización españoles de mi blog,
 

paciente por favor...

Saturday, March 9, 2013

Unusual Lubes…

I get some mails with the question; can you use other lubes than the ones there are on the market? Many different substances can be used as a lube for fisting & fucking, many of them coming from the kitchen. I've used in the past some of those ones; cooking oil, ice cream, butter (like Crisco is) or margarine and even honey.  Success with these has been mixed. The cooking oil, butter and margarine in fact anything oil based is likely to work well. The ice cream, (vanilla) was nice from my point of view as a Top, because it made the rimming that went with the play all the better. Men, heavy ass play / Fist and ice cream - does life get any better?

From the point of view of the bottom, the lubrication level was sufficient, but he found the cold numbed him, and so he lost sensation until the ice cream melted. The honey did work, but as would be expected, was as sticky as hell. In that particular play situation, one of the aims was to get as messy as hell, and this certainly helped. 

From a purely practical point of view, putting a strong sugar solution up the ass, isn't likely to do much good to the mucous membranes, as I suspect it will tend to de-hydrate them. When I used it, it was washed out of the ass very quickly, so this wasn't an issue, but I'd be advisable to use it for long periods.

DO NOT USE any form of soap liquid or dishwashing products, THIS IS VERY DANGEROUS, it can burn out the inside and also your dick wouldn’t like it. (A friend of mine used it once because he had no other thing in the house, both of the fister and the fistee where brought to the emergency room a half hour later.)

Other: There are some moisturize creams you can use, they have a nice affect and feeling too. No side effects. So long they are natural or some like it with menthol. Try, Aqueous Cream by Tesco (home product).

Reaction from readers:
Geoff W.from Perth (AUS): 
I mix crisco and J-lube add some essential oil, and hey presto. You can't really fuck it up...

Friday, March 8, 2013

Fisting: "The Act" - Part 1


So you are in position now…



Your first goal when fisting a guy should be not to cause any damage. Like any other kind of anal play, fisting should not cause pain or serious physical trauma. Pain or severe discomfort is a sign that your body is not ready or relaxed enough for this type of play. It’s extremely important for both of you to communicate to each other about this and to stop if the guy who is being penetrated /fisted feels any pain. Sometimes, even if you have fisted or been fisted by a guy before or even the same guy, the body or the mind refuses or not able to accept to take a whole hand, the best thing to do in that case is to acknowledge that it’s not going to happen. Never force the process. 

Still there is pain and pain, like I wrote before, it doesn’t matter if you are new or for those who are already in to fisting for long years. When the bottom (fistee) says “stop”, I look in his eyes and check if I see the stars in his eyes. If yes, I slow down and continue smoother… It can happen often that the bottom (fistee) says stop. You do not always have to stop immediately, but if the color of his eyes changed to yellow, or green, and the stars disappeared it’s a clearly sign that you have to stop. 

Second, realize that fisting is indeed a process. You’re not going to squeeze your hand into someone’s body cavity without a lot of warm-up. You can begin with some non-penetrative activities that will get blood moving to the recipient’s pelvis, any kind of genital or anal stimulation that they find enjoyable. Or you start with dildo´s or even by fucking the guy. In general I lick or rim the ass first it is a wonderful way to find out how relaxed the bottom is, by rimming the bottom you can find out if the ass is relaxed or locked, you can feel his legs and see if they are in a comfortable position and if the legs are tense or relaxed, same with the stomach feel if it is relaxed. With the for-play in general the guy you play with will get relaxed.

When your bottom is ready for penetration, insert one or two fingers anally and massage him internally to begin to relax the muscles. It’s important to use lots of lubricant during this process! Follow it up with three or four fingers. Most guys find it easier to insert their fingers in a “V” shape, with all four fingers coming together in a point like a duck’s beak. 




The beak-like "silent duck" used in the initial stages of fisting. The "Silent Duck", also called "Duck-Billing", is the technique much often used in which the person engaging in hand insertion shapes the hand to resemble a duck's beak. Instead, all five fingers are kept straight and held as close together as possible (forming the beak-like "duck"), then slowly inserted into a well lubricated rectum. This process can take between 10 to 60 minutes; all depends on the ass and the bottom.

The most intense part of the process, and the point at which many people get stuck and realize that they may have to stop, is inserting the thumb (again in a “V” shape with the rest of the fingers) and then getting past the knuckles, since this is the widest part of the hand. This requires a lot of relaxation from the part of the bottom (fistee), who may find it helpful to bear down with their muscles. Guys with smaller hands will find this step easier to accomplish than guys with larger hands like myself (no surprise there). If you try, sometimes you have to push, not to hard and you make slow movements in and out to larger the rectum. If the knuckles do not pas right away, you also can try with 3 or 4 fingers to make movements from the left to the right, depends on the opening. As you feel the ass opens up use both hands and place of each hand 3 or 4 fingers inside and make movements like you open or close something (pushing from the in to the outside). The best way is to have the back of your hands against each other (opposite of the pray position). Of course these movements have to be done slowly. From the moment your fingers are going in you can also start to move them around inside 1, 2, or more just move the tops of your fingers. This can give a nice feeling for the bottom.

Once past the knuckles, the inserting partner may find that the rest of their hand is naturally pulled into the anus and that their fingers and thumb curl into a ball.






If the hand is in and stays in a “duck” position do not immediately try to close the hand into a ball. STOP and give the bottom a little time to get used to your hand. Either way; in a “duck” or “ball” position. Every ass/rectum is different so try to feel the bottoms ass. Deep or short in length, narrow or wide, there are all kinds of! If you did not automatically go in to a ball position try to find if there is place to close the hand in this position, remember again slowly. Close not the whole hand in one movement sometimes you have to do this finger by finger. AGAIN do not force.

Before, after closing or in the position you came in: duck or ball, now you can move slowly around your hand from left to right or right to left. You can also make little push movements slowly in and out (but leave the hand inside), these push movements are not bigger than a half centimeter in general. If the ass is deep or wide this can be a little more.

TOP 
now you have a fist in for the first time, enjoy! You feel things with your hand you never felt before, soft & warm. But keep in mind, look at your bottom and how he is reacting. If it was a to intense procedure or when the bottom asks for it to stop, take the hand out AGAIN VERY SLOWLY.

BOTTOM 
if this is your first time and you can handle the hand, enjoy! Maybe you felt a little pain, but was it pain? Or you totally love the feeling of your ass being filed up. Hard, strong or sometimes soft, this depends of the hand size or the way it is build. Not only every ass is different but also the hands come in different form and sizes. NOW it is up to you how long you want the fist inside, but do not feel ashamed to ask to stop. The top will now slowly take out his hand.

Take a break, drink something, smoke a cigarette and start over...



Thursday, March 7, 2013

Fisting: A General Introduction - How do I start?

So we did eat well the last days, we learned how to clean out, you cut our finger nails, we choose our lubrications and the boy we want to play with. 
WHAT NOW?
Do we use special things/items or a special place to play?

This in general we leave up to the bottoms, we want him to be totaly relaxed and calm. But we tops can also invite people at our house. Remember, things can get dirty; lubes will be falling down etc. etc., so protect the things or the space where you want to play. You can use (beach) towels or plastic/latex or rubber sheets.

For beginners the bed can be comfortable, the coach or just on the ground. For those under you who can effort it a sling. This is seen by a lot of bottoms as the best position to fist in.

What is a sling? A sling is a hammock, made out of leather or strong thick rubber (see photo, my slings at home), you can buy them on line or at specialist shops. Prices are very different from 200€ up to 500€. There are different models 4 points or 5 points (with head support) and different designs. You hang them on rings to your wall or ceiling or you buy a portable one.



4 points
5 points
Portable sling 4 points

Slings are nice and comfortable to lie in, lying on your back and the legs are up. For most of the bottoms this is a good way to handle the hands coming in. Beside that you have a perfect eye to eye contact between the top and bottom. Group play makes it also easier with a sling.
In time you will learn which position you like the most, sling, doggy position, straight up or in sitting position, there are a lot of ways. 
Beside a sling there are more products that you can use, like a gynecology bed, a tire swing, in the years I saw some nice and hot self-made items.


 (2nd hand around 100€ on Ebay)
Great indoors & outdoors
(Self-made price 25€)

What do we need more? 
  • Paper towels to clean. Message to all Tops: out of respect we clean the ass of the bottom after every session.
  • Gloves: latex, nitrile rubber, vinyl or neoprene. Also here you have to find out in time what you like. Even when you play Bareback (meaning without) you should always have gloves with you or at your house. The other person can have little injuries on his hand or you inside so it is safer.
  • Condoms
  • Cleaning alcohol, to clean your hands and arms before playing, between breaks or after.

The bigger the better








Also in black


Because we do not only fist.




So now you're ready to start...

coming up:
Fisting - The Act

Wednesday, March 6, 2013

Answers on questions...


If you get fisted, you'll be unable to control your bowel/gut movements later in life!


This is simply NOT true. Learning to take a fist is more than anything else; it is about learning getting control over what your hole is doing. Because I'm fisting since three decades, I still have friends who I met some decades ago who have been fisted since that same time or even longer, who still have total control over their bowel movements, while those around them of the same age are beginning to experience difficulties, without ever even having been fucked.

If you get fisted, you're bound to do some damage inside that's going to cause long term health problems. When fisting is done properly, the risk of injury is much lower than for many other everyday activities.
It is important that both parties should have good communication between them, and that the top listens both to the bottoms verbal and above all non-verbal language. If this happens, injury is extremely unlikely.

Beside that, the bottom knows, if he is well informed! That he knows how to take care of his body and health after playing. For example he should sit in a warm bath the same evening or the next morning after a (heavy) session - 10 to 15 min. is enough - through this the (butt) muscles are getting relaxed, if you a heavy player (more than once a month) you should do some exercises: simple things like walking up and down stairs, biking, swimming or going to your local gym and work out those butt muscles.


 
It's important that at least one of the guys is experienced!
 
Yes! That way he can guide you in the right way to make things work, and can teach techniques both for safety, and pleasure. One of the most dangerous scenarios in fisting, is when two fisting virgins decide to “let us try” without any idea of how to go about it. This seldom works, and often puts both guys off for life. In extreme circumstances, it can cause injury to the bottom.  
Do not worry there are always guys around you in your town or area who want to take the time to teach you.  Of course choose someone you have confidence in otherwise it doesn’t work either. The beautiful thing about the fist community is that they stand together (in general I mean, there are some exceptions but this is rare). Or you can visit one of the Fist party's in the bars or clubs in your country if you think you are more confortable there. If you do not know where try this page Fist Parties Europe (will try to find world wide page too)



If you take a fist, it's REALLY got to hurt?
 
 
First what is pain? There are 2 forms of pain, sometimes you feel things and the signal to your brain will say “Orff, wtf was that? And sometimes you feel pain and you want to scream it out. In fisting like in other fetish you will learn the difference between the two.
Of course, if it's done wrongly, fisting can be painful, but so can any form of sex.
On the moment you want to scream it out, something isn’t good. When it's done right, the sensation is PURE pleasure.
 
I'm an exclusively a top, and I'm often surprised by the pleasure they receive is way beyond anything experienced in other forms of sex. They quite literally often end up in another state of consciousness where all they experience is ecstasy. Pain is usually the result of either lack of good technique, or taking things too quickly. Except with very experienced bottoms, the golden rule is to go slowly and take lots of time.
TOP guys you have to listen to the body of the bottoms.
Bottoms it is not always the Top who does something wrong, do not be too greedy either, take your time…

 
You've got to take drugs to take a fist?
 
Simply not true. Fisting scenes can be entirely successful without drugs. Of course many choose to use drugs while fisting, but this again is the case with all forms of sex. Fisting and drugs are not necessarily connected. If drugs are involved, it is important that both the top and the bottom remain clear headed enough to exercise good judgment. If judgment is impaired, problems in the form of injuries can occur, especially if the bottom has taken a substance which depresses the perception of pain.

I think that a Top should be always drug free.
Like I explained on the pages where I talk about Fist & Drugs, my personal view, and I know it is one which is not shared by all experienced fisters, is that the best fisting sessions take place where no chemical enhancements are used. To play in a drug free session can be just as wide, deep and extreme as in one where drugs are used. It simply requires that good technique should be used and plenty of time taken.
Plus in the end you will remember everything.



Questions send in by guys:


If you get fisted, you'll be unable to control your bowel/gut movements later in life!

It's important that at least one of the guys is experienced!

If you take a fist, it's REALLY got to hurt?

You've got to take drugs to take a fist?

answers coming up soon and btw thanks for all your support guys.

Fisting: A General Introduction - Drugs Part III


So now I tried to explain you what there is to get and what it does sexually...

It is I think also necessary to tell what can happen? 
What can go wrong at long term? 
or 
What happens if you mix drugs or use in combination with other drugs? 

While I was writing part I & II, I came on a page of 
and I found some interesting information so I will share it with you here:

Alcohol
A long term relationship?
Alcohol is a low level toxin which is the reason it can damage the heart and liver of heavy drinkers and why pregnant women shouldn’t drink.
Heavy drinking over a long period can lead to liver disease, cancers of the throat, mouth and liver, and brain damage. Excessive drinking kills thousands each year.
Addiction to alcohol can be physical, for example, the ‘shakes’ are a withdrawal symptom, or psychological, giving you an intense urge to keep drinking.

Alcohol with other drugs:
  • Depressants  – because alcohol is a depressant drug, mixing it with other depressants like GHB, ketamine or tranquillisers can make you pass out or interfere with your breathing or heart which can kill. GHB-related overdoses and deaths often involve alcohol. It’s risky to take GHB if you have booze in your system.
  • Ecstasy  – booze deadens the effects of E and together both can dangerously dehydrate the body. E-related deaths often involve alcohol.
  • Cocaine – in the body alcohol combines with cocaine to make cocaethylene, which can make the effects of the coke stronger. Mixing the two increases the harm done by both drugs. There’s a bigger risk of sudden death when people use cocaine and alcohol together.
  • HIV medication – there are no significant bad reactions with moderate alcohol use, but if booze makes you throw up within an hour of taking HIV medication, the dose should be taken again. As drinking often causes vomiting, mixing it with other drugs carries the risk of choking on vomit if you fall unconscious.
Useful to know
Drinking water between drinks and/or before sleeping cuts down on dehydration and hangover symptoms.
Alcohol can make anxiety, depression or sleep problems worse, so should be treated with caution if you’re vulnerable to these.
Coffee can’t sober you up. Only alcohol leaving your system over time does this.



Poppers
A long term relationship?
Poppers aren’t addictive in the way some drugs are but they can be habit-forming and the more you use them the less effect they have. Sensitivity comes back after a few days of not using them.

Poppers with other drugs
  • Viagra-type drugs  – makers of erection drugs like Viagra warn against using them with poppers, as both lower blood pressure. Poppers are nitrites. Similar drugs (nitrates) are used by people with heart problems. Taking Viagra and similar drugs while on nitrates has killed people by causing a fatal drop in blood pressure. So to be on the safe side, caution is advised with poppers (nitrites) too.
  • HIV medication – protease inhibitors push up levels of erection drugs in the body, meaning a bigger risk of a dangerous interaction if poppers are used.
  • Ecstasy,  speed , cocaine or crystal meth– these all put strain on the heart. Taking them with poppers stresses it even more.
Useful to know
  • Because poppers can kill an erection, it’s better to put a condom on before the first hit of poppers.
  • Poppers easily catch fire so should be kept away from naked flames, cigarettes, etc.
  • You should avoid poppers if you’ve got high or low blood pressure, a heart condition or glaucoma (an eye condition).

Viagra
A long term relationship?

In males, this typically results in penile erection. The use of Viagra can cause side effects affecting multiple organ systems in the body. Additionally, long-term use of this drug can potentially increase the risk of psychological dependency.
Long-term use of Viagra has been associated with various problems affecting the auditory (hearing) and visual systems. Loss or decrease of hearing have been reported in association with use of Viagra

Viagra with other drugs
  • HIV medication – protease inhibitors push up levels of the erection drug in the body, so a lower dose of Viagra will be needed. It is important to check what dose you should take with your HIV doctor as there has been one reported death of a man using Viagra and also taking ritonavir and saquinavir.
  • Poppers – some makers of erection drugs warn against using them with poppers, as both lower blood pressure. Poppers are nitrites. Similar drugs called nitrates are taken by people with heart conditions. Taking Viagra and similar drugs while on nitrates has killed men by causing a fatal drop in blood pressure. So to be on the safe side, caution is advised with poppers (nitrites) too.
  • Ecstasy– Viagra and E together (called ‘sextasy’) could strain the heart and has been known to cause a hard-on that won’t go down. An erection lasting over 4 hours can damage a dick. Get medical help straight away.
  • Cocaine, crystal meth and speed, or chems that might have speed in them such as ecstasy tablets -- when taken together with Viagra these put extra pressure on the heart.
Useful to know
Viagra is the trade name for the drug sildenafil citrate. It works by relaxing the smooth muscle lining of certain blood vessels, causing them to expand and fill with blood. 
It is also sold over the internet  but attention some of them are fakes. 
Check with a doctor before taking erection drugs, especially if you’re in one of these groups of men more likely to have a dangerous reaction. These are men who are:
  • older
  • overweight


Cocaine
A long term relationship?
As your tolerance builds to both cocaine and crack, more will be needed to gt the same high. Coke has a reputation for being more addictive than most chems and crack is even more addictive. The drugs can cause lasting damage to how the brain works and, given the drug’s price, becoming addicted can ruin you financially.
Using cocaine or crack for a long time, or large doses, can cause panic attacks, hallucinations, depression, paranoia, and psychosis. Snorting coke can, over time, destroy the lining of the nose and the skin between nostrils called the septum.


Coke/crack with other drugs:
  • Alcohol – using booze together with coke or crack makes the bad effects of both worse and can give you the illusion of being sober when you’re drunk. These drugs mix together in the body with alcohol to make cocaethylene, a toxin that damages the brain, liver and heart. This is the reason for the bigger risk of sudden death in people using alcohol and coke or crack together.
  • Speed, Crystal meth, Ecstasy, or Viagra – mixing these drugs with coke or crack means even more pressure on the heart and circulatory system, with a bigger risk of stroke and heart attack.
  • Anti-depressants – taking cocaine or crack when you’re on some anti-depressants can cause ‘serotonin syndrome’. This could be dangerous and causes symptoms like a fast heart beat, sweating, muscle spasms, and not being able to sleep. You need to seek urgent medical help if this happens to you. If you’re on anti-depressants check with a doctor before using these drugs.
  • HIV medication – as the body processes these differently than cocaine or crack, there are no known dangerous interactions.
Useful to know
If you share straws or bank notes to snort coke tiny amounts of blood could go from the lining of one person’s nose to another. This might possibly spread blood borne viruses like hepatitis C. The same could happen if crack pipes are passed from a mouth with ulcers or burns to another person’s mouth.


Methamphetamime/Crystal meth 

A long term relationship?
Tolerance to crystal meth soon builds and users need more to get the same high. The drug has a reputation for being quickly addictive. Many who party with Tina have waved goodbye to jobs, homes, money, boyfriends, friends and health. Hardened gay scene party animals who can control their use of other drugs have found themselves out of their depth with crystal. It can get hard to think of having sex without being on meth.
Using crystal long term can get scary -- we’re talking psychosis or lasting mental health problems, even after quitting the drug.
Quitting crystal can be very hard and its effects on the brain can last long after giving the drug up.

Crystal with other drugs:

  • HIV medication – protease inhibitors could cause a big, maybe fatal rise in levels of crystal in the body. And if you’re tweaking the weekend away you’re less likely to take your HIV drugs on time (if you remember at all). Meth itself damages the immune system, as does going without food or sleep when you’re on it.
  • Ecstasy, cocaine, poppers and Viagra-type drugs - all these put your heart under strain. If you’re using crystal too you’re pushing your heart even harder.
  • Anti-depressants – taking crystal while on anti-depressants can make life-threatening reactions more likely, including dangerously high blood pressure - check with your HIV doctor.

Useful to know
Injecting is best avoided. It’s the quickest way to getting addicted and runs the risk of serious health problems (skin abscesses, collapsed veins, blood poisoning, and heart infections). Sharing injecting equipment puts you at high risk of getting or passing on HIV, hepatitis C and other infections.
Using hot pipes might injure your mouth and if you share them it risks passing on - in tiny amounts of blood - infections like hepatitis C and HIV.
Condoms are more likely to break after about half an hour of fucking. So during long sex sessions on crystal it makes sense to check rubbers during sex and put a fresh one on after 30 minutes.


Ecstasy (MDMA) 

A long term relationship?
Tolerance to E can soon build, with more needed to get the same high. Some people come to rely on the drug and can’t imagine clubbing without it. Whether ecstasy use can cause long term memory loss or depression is unclear – research is still looking at this.

E with other drugs:

  • Alcohol  – this can deaden the effect of E and mask the effects of the booze, making it difficult to tell how drunk you are. Both dehydrate the body, put strain on the liver and kidneys, and raise body temperature. Ecstasy-related deaths often involve booze.
  • HIV medication – some of these, especially protease inhibitors, could send levels of E to life-threatening levels in the body. Check with your HIV doctor.
  • Anti-depressants – taking E when on a course of some anti-depressants can cause ‘serotonin syndrome’, a dangerous reaction with symptoms of agitation, sleeplessness, sweating, faster heart beat and muscle spasms. If this happens, you need to seek urgent medical help. If you’re on anti-depressants get medical advice before taking E.
  • Cocaine, speed, crystal meth – these stimulant drugs taken with E can put the heart under a dangerous level of stress, leading to a risk of heart attack or stroke.  There is also a potential for ‘serotonin syndrome’.
  • Viagra-type drugs – as well as possible extra stress on the heart, there have been a few reports of this combination possibly leading to erections that won’t go down. If medical help isn’t found within four hours this can cause lasting damage to a man’s cock.

Useful to know
You can avoid overheating and dehydration by drinking a pint of water over every hour that you’re dancing, and by taking breaks. But drinking too much water can be dangerous.
Once your brain’s ‘feel good’ chemicals have been used up, they take a few days to be replaced. So there’s little point taking more E. Any extra buzz you might get will come from whatever the pill’s been cut with.
E should be avoided by people with a history of mental illness or depression as it can trigger depression or make it worse if you have it already.
As ecstasy pushes up blood pressure and heart rate it should be avoided if you’ve got high blood pressure, heart, liver, or kidney problems, the eye condition glaucoma or a history of stroke.


Cannabis

A long term relationship?
You can become dependent on cannabis. It can leave some people with a poor memory and less able to concentrate or stay motivated -- the classic ‘dope head’.
Researchers are looking at the link between cannabis and mental illness as the drug seems to trigger mental health problems, including schizophrenia, in a small number of people. This is more likely to happen in people who already have depression or anxiety or who are vulnerable to mental health problems, although they usually won’t know they’re vulnerable.
Mental illness seems more likely if you use cannabis as a teenager, if you use it a lot, or if you use the stronger types.

Cannabis with other drugs:

  • Tobacco – smoking cannabis with tobacco has a high risk of addiction to nicotine and smoking-related illness like cancer, heart disease and breathing problems. People smoking both cigarettes and cannabis take in very high levels of cancer-causing tar.
  • Alcohol -- using cannabis and alcohol together can have negative effects. You may feel sick or lose track of how much of each substance you've taken. This also leaves you open to taking risks you might not otherwise.
  • HIV medication – there are no known dangerous interactions, however, one study has shown that marijuana decreases the levels of Atazanavir in the blood.

Useful to know
Cannabis smoke contains more harmful substances than cigarette smoke.
Smoking it with tobacco has the same health risks as smoking cigarettes, such as cancer, chest and breathing problems. The risk may be higher because cannabis smokers breathe in deeper and for longer.
Eating it gets round these drawbacks but it’s harder to control the dose and the effects can be much stronger than you might want.
Using bongs is more harmful than joints because you breathe in more drugs and smoke.


GHB or GBL

A long term relationship?
Regular users often build up a tolerance to G, needing more to get the same buzz. Some get dependent on it. Withdrawal symptoms include the shakes and heavy duty anxiety attacks.

G with other drugs:

  • Depressants - it’s very risky to mix G with other depressant drugs (downers) like alcohol and tranquilisers - but also ketamine or antihistamines (used in allergy medicines). Their combined action can dangerously slow down your breathing or cause a long ‘G sleep’ - which isn’t sleep at all, but unconsciousness. A fit, coma or death is possible. Even drinking booze a few hours earlier can leave enough in your system to risk a collapse. 
  • HIV medication - G can also interact with HIV meds, causing dangerously high levels of G and a bigger risk of collapsing.

Useful to know
If someone’s getting drowsy from GHB/GBL, don’t let them fall into a ‘G-sleep’ - they’re not ‘sleeping’, they’re unconscious and may not wake up. Try to keep them awake and moving until the effects wear off or medical help arrives.
If G knocks someone out, to stop them choking on their own vomit they should be laid on their side, not on their back.
If you or friends aren’t feeling well or can’t be woken up, get medical help straight away. There’s always a risk of sudden death if someone’s unconscious. You’ll be in a lot more trouble if you don’t get help and then have a dead body on your hands.


Ketamine
A long term relationship?
Overdose deaths are rare, but you can build up a tolerance to K, with more needed to get the same result. Some people become dependent on it. Using ketamine long term might cause anxiety, depression, suicidal thoughts or memory loss and other mental health problems.
If you use ketamine often it can cause bladder problems, kidney or liver damage, stomach pains and blood in the urine. Ketamine can cause scarring and inflammation of the bladder making the bladder unable to hold much urine, causing a need to piss very often. These symptoms often lessen when ketamine use is stopped, but in some cases surgery is needed. Some people have had to have their bladder taken out and be fitted with a bag that collects their urine.

Ketamine with other drugs:
  • Depressants -- this includes ‘downers’ like alcohol, GHB/GBL , Valium, barbiturates. As K and other depressants slow the body and its functions down, the combined effect can knock you out and/or slow your breathing to a dangerous level.
  • HIV medication – some of these, especially protease inhibitors, can cause higher levels of ketamine in your body. There is a theoretical risk that NNRTIs could also increase the amount of ketamine in the body.
  • Tobacco/cannabis  – smoking cigarettes or joints when using K carries a risk of fires as K can make you unable to move. There is also a risk of burns as K’s anaesthetic effect can stop you feeling pain.
Useful to know
K is usually snorted in its powder form although some people add it to drinks. However, you should never mix K with alcohol. Sometimes people smoke K mixed with cannabis in a joint, however smoking it is unpleasant and can damage the lungs. Ketamine powder might also be mixed with water and injected into a muscle, but never inject into a vein. However, injecting is always best avoided because of the health risks it poses. K can also come in pill form.
If you share your injecting equipment there’s a real risk of getting or passing on infections such as HIV or hepatitis C. Injecting can also cause skin abscesses, blood poisoning, life-threatening blood clots or heart infections.
Someone in a K hole should be taken away from music and bright lights and reassured that it’ll be over soon and they will be OK.
K should be avoided by people who have fits, high blood pressure or heart or liver problems.



Speed
A long term relationship?
You can become dependent on the drug, with larger doses needed to get the same effect and withdrawal symptoms if you stop. These can include exhaustion, insomnia, depression and feeling irritable. Long-term use of speed can damage the heart, liver, kidneys and lungs, causing aggression and ‘speed psychosis’ which can include violent behaviour, paranoia and hallucinations.

Speed with other drugs:
  • HIV medication – protease inhibitors, particularly Ritonavir, can cause a big increase in the amount of speed in the body, leading to overdose.
  • Cocaine, crystal meth, Ecstasy, poppers – mixing these drugs with speed risks a dangerous strain on the heart.
  • Anti-depressants – taking speed when on these drugs can cause a life-threatening rise in blood pressure.
  • Alcohol – speed masks the effects of booze, leading people to drink more without realising how drunk/over the limit they are.
  • Viagra-type drugs  - speed causes loss of erections, but taking Viagra etc. puts even more stress on the heart.
Useful to know
Swallowing the drug wrapped in a cigarette paper (a speed bomb) or mixing it with water is less harmful than snorting which can damage the nose. When snorting there’s less damage to the nose if the powder’s fine, if you alternate nostrils and rinse them out after. Injecting is best avoided as this is more likely to lead to addiction. Also, speed deaths are linked to taking the drug this way, and it can cause skin abscesses, damaged veins, blood poisoning and heart infections. Sharing injecting equipment can pass on HIV and hepatitis B and C. Speed should be avoided by people with high blood pressure or heart conditions.



Mephedrone
A long term relationship?
The effects of mephedrone wear off after about an hour and it’s easy to get dependent on it and get into a situation where you take more and more to keep the buzz going. 

Mephedrone with other drugs:
As mephedrone is pretty new on the scene there’s no research to say what effects it can have.

Useful to know
Less is known about mephedrone than most other drugs as it is relatively new. It is clear that it stimulates the heart, causing a rapid heartbeat. Some people have also experienced their fingers being cold or turning blue.
People have also reported it causing similar side effects as amphetamines, such as teeth grinding, anxiety, paranoia, short-term memory loss and changes in body temperature.
There hasn’t been much research into mephedrone so it is hard to know the effect it has on other drugs such as HIV meds. It is best to be cautious and if you are using it talk to your doctor about how it might affect your other pills.



Acid (LSD)

A long term relationship?
Using acid for a long time can cause paranoia and schizophrenia-like mental illness.
Weeks, months or years after taking LSD you might get panic attacks or flashbacks, which is where parts of the trip are relived.

Acid with other drugs:
  • Anti-depressants can lower or boost the effects of LSD. Some anti-depressants and the mood stabiliser lithium can make the effect of the drug a lot stronger and cause dangerous reactions. Check with a doctor before taking acid if you’re on these other drugs. Acid can be very strong and unpredictable, so mixing it with other chems isn’t a good idea at all.
  • There are no known dangerous interactions between LSD and anti-HIV medication.
Useful to know
If someone’s having a bad trip, take them somewhere quiet and reassure them the drug will wear off in a few hours. But if they are out of control, get medical help as they may need sedating. Acid can.


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