But first this:
We were a group of 5 guys, 1 active 4 versatile guys… now first in my eyes there are NO versatile guys, or better said not a lot. Out of the 10 versatile guys only 1 or 2 are really versatile. In general they are bottoms but if they want to have some ffun they need to be versatile because you don´t find as much real Tops these days. Is this a good thing? No in general not, they are nice or good bottoms but do not really want to fist, they try; first: they are not really into fisting and did not take the time to learn or paying attention to the active part, second: they fist like they want to be fisted without paying attention to the other passive guy, third: they really do not know how to fist. This all can be very uncomfortable for the other passive guy or even better said very boring. Back to the weekend, my boyfriend learned to fist in the last 2 years but prefers to be fisted, he is handling well the active part (not perfect, but tries real hard), there was another (top) guy who was exactly really versatile, he learned the active side first and since February of this year is getting more bottom in fist (already bottom in the rest of his fetish), the other 2 guys are bottoms even when they say they are versatile! This you find out the way the want to get fisted and the way they fist. Like I said before a bottom can take control but this means he is not enjoying the act, you have to let the Top taking control. Relax and give some confidence to the Top guy. If you cannot, this means you´re surrounded in general with those so called “versatile” guys and you learned not to trust them, a shame. The experienced top or bottom will find this out immediately, it will break the party.
One more thing guys “please” during the act stop thinking about normal daily life things (like cleaning during the act – of course a little is no problem – but you do not want to be Mr Proper during playing or making that shopping list). Playtime is Playtime. These are all things that break up the atmosphere…
And even when you are a real versatile, when you are a bottom, you are from an original in a submissive position. So don´t take away the joy from the active one to top, like in instructing every minute how to do it, because he will lose interest.
BOXING - Fist-boxing
Now if the bottom likes this you can speed up a little and see how far he can go and enjoys it. With experienced bottoms this will be much easier and this can go much faster, in general their ass or their eyes will tell you to speed up the process. AGAIN IT ALL DEPENDS IF THEY TRUST YOU. Also with the experienced bottom we start the same way as with the beginner; so go in with the hand in “duck” position when inside close carefully and open again and take out, than change the hand. Now you will see the difference, the ass of an experienced bottom is used to this kind of handling. Look at your bottom and speed up the process. Little by little, yes your arms gone get tired (sometimes even quicker than the ass of the bottom) but work that ass. Now to do it the pleasant way for the bottom, in between you take little breaks or make other movements. ATTENTION A BOTTOM WHO LIKES BOXING MAYBE DOESN¨T LIKE DEEP FISTING or the other way around, deep fisters do not like boxing.
When the bottom is really enjoying this we can go to a higher level and speed even more up. We can also try another position, if your bottom is lying in the sling, normally with is legs spread to you, now take his legs and pull them the other way so that his head and feet are at the same height. This is easier when you are with more guys or when the bottom can hold his legs himself. You can also hang the leg holders of your sling on the head side of the sling so automatically the legs are up. You will find out that the ass will even be more open. Same for the dog position, ask your bottom for putting his shoulders as low as possible, meaning they are on the ground (mattress) and the ass is totally up. (This last position is also good for to go deeper, but we talk later about this) Now you can go even faster and yes you will get tired and you will feel your upper-arms but think you give joy to your bottom.
All depends on the bottom how fast and how long this all will take, some can take it for hours (I know one), but it´s the bottom now who says where is his limit. If you really get to tired you can of course stop too. Sometimes this is a wise decision because the bottom likes it so much and doesn´t know always his limits. This is for sure when he is on to many drugs. So stop for 10 or 20 minutes and start over.
From the bottom side: the bottom can enjoy more if he just let things done. So, no pushing (-out) reactions, just relaxing, conveying in "the" top or tops. You can or will leave less harm to you if you don´t push and after a while you realise that it´s much more pleasure. Not everyone fists the same way, but if you are an experienced bottom, and you play with an experienced top he will realise what is good for you.
The other way to do fist boxing is with closed hands. Meaning; you close your hand into a fist, before going in. You put one hand in than out and repeat with the other hand. Of course this all depends of the size of your hand and/or the open ass your boxing. (In my case not everyone can take this, but my own Cub can.) In general the last 2 positions I talked about are the most comfortable ones for the bottom. Now if you get started go slow and then faster and faster it is a wonderful experience for both top & bottom. The bottom will find out that he has finally no limit. This is only recommended too experience fisters.
There is also the way to hang the bottom upside down or let him stand on his feet (be sure he cannot fall) and you boxing from under or above. This is the absolute max for a Top.
All the above is done with a Top who is not on drugs, PLEASE TOP GUYS YOU DO NOT NEED DRUGS TO GET OFF THE GROUND, if they are on drugs please take extra care. Again and again, a real Top does not have to be on drugs you play with the life of someone else SO DON´T.
So talking about the party again if there is really a versatile guy you can have a lot of fun, there is nothing better than having to guys who both now what they can handle and do. In my case it is very horny to play with my bottom cub and another versatile guy. It can give a relaxing moment for the bottoms to change from one ass to the other ass (of course cleaning your hands in between) or change hands. Also at 3 you have more ffun, the best way to relax a bottom is to occupy him with other things like tit-torture or deep-throat sucking on the same time he get fisted. The best weekend we had since a long time was with our friend from the Island I was talking about in my weekend story. When he came back to visit our house some weeks ago we had a blast, wow what a Top can ask more for than 2 power bottoms. (The first photo on my blog you see was of that day, my 2 power bottoms.)
There is another thing I have to talk about! Blood, there are a lot of guys 9 out of 10 who are bleeding when you fist them, this can be normal. Just pay attention. Putting things that don´t belong in the ass can do small damage to the pelvic wall; some little veins can go open and leave blood. In general clear red coloured blood. So, do not get terrified this is normal. Again be careful. Especially with Boxing.
Advice: if there is a little blood coming out or coming free, take out the hand clean it with paper and go back in, take again your hand out and see if there is still blood 7 out of 10 there will be nothing. So it was just a little vein. In the 3 other cases it can be one; that there are more little veins that went open. Than repeat the cleaning and go back in. (Sometimes use an ice-cube when going back in this stops the bleeding also.) Two; there are guys who bleed a lot when veins go open, in this case send the bottom to the shower and let him put some cold water up his ass. Normally it stops. If it does not stop than wait a while before you continue the play.
When to stop really a session in case of blood? In general wen it is a dark coloured blood stop or when there is a stream of blood coming and it can be stopped. In this case go slowly back in and check if nothing is damaged, than it is better to take a longer rest or stop the session. If you feel something that was not there before stop and call a doctor or 911. Do not let this scare you in the over 30 years that I fist it happened 1 time to me, and only because I did not know what the bottom went through the night before. That why; it is SO IMPORTANT, to tell what you did and what you are using the day before or what you did or used the same day. But you have to be prepared for those things. Later on I will tell more about the dangers of fisting and what to do. In the mean while play and enjoy the fisting